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I suggest more variants of the Raptor UDV to be added! Itani and Serco have a variety of their faction's ship available while the UIT only have one. I suspect that's only the case because development time was limited back when they brought in the UDV in '14. The Raptor UDV has a lot of potential and the other variants could be diverse!
I suggest these 3 new Raptor UDV Variants (which would put the UIT on par ship wise with the Serco who also have 4 total variants of their Prometheus):
TPG Raptor UDV - Border Defender (Armored Variant)
Armor: 13500
Cargo: 2
Weapons: 2 large ports
Mass: 4400kg
Length: 17m
Thrust: 250N
Turbo Thrust: 355N
Max Speed: 60 m/s
Spin Torque: 9.0 Nm
Turbo Speed: 220 m/s
Turbo energy: 57/s
Implemented sensors: Storm radar, Addon Scanner (no others)
A significantly heavier variant of the Raptor UDV which cannot chase well, won't pick up a lot of cargo and has a slow cruising speed. However it will be relatively agile and has a lot of armor for a tough fight. It's supposed to be the big brother of the WTD to save those trade routes.
TPG Raptor UDV - Nighthawk variant (light chaser)
Armor: 9500
Cargo: 2
Weapons: 1 large port
Mass: 3600kg
Length: 17m
Thrust: 230N
Turbo Thrust: 300N
Max Speed: 70 m/s
Spin Torque: 8.5 Nm
Turbo Speed: 225 m/s
Turbo energy: 53/s
Implemented sensors: Storm radar, Cargo Scanner
The first ship to have a single large port. Low armor, medium agility, various stat-sacrifises to create a mean chaser with a single large port.
TPG Raptor UDV - Cargo Packer (Extended cargo variant)
Armor: 11000
Cargo: 25
Weapons: 2 large ports
Mass: 4500kg
Length: 17m
Thrust: 230N
Turbo Thrust: 330N
Max Speed: 65 m/s
Spin Torque: 8.5 Nm
Turbo Speed: 220 m/s
Turbo energy: 55/s
Implemented sensors: All that the basic UDV has.
The cargo hauling variant of the UDV. An exclusive ability for the UIT to quickly haul some important stuff without sacrifising much of the UDV's style.
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As you see, the various models try to match what the Serco and Itani already have: Multi purpose versions of their basic faction ship. I tried to build these ships around the basic variant of the Raptor UDV, which is the balanced variant of these special-purpose edititons.
The UDV Raptor Nighthawk will be a nice experiment as we have no ship with a single large port yet.
More ship variants. Hooray!
I suggest these 3 new Raptor UDV Variants (which would put the UIT on par ship wise with the Serco who also have 4 total variants of their Prometheus):
TPG Raptor UDV - Border Defender (Armored Variant)
Armor: 13500
Cargo: 2
Weapons: 2 large ports
Mass: 4400kg
Length: 17m
Thrust: 250N
Turbo Thrust: 355N
Max Speed: 60 m/s
Spin Torque: 9.0 Nm
Turbo Speed: 220 m/s
Turbo energy: 57/s
Implemented sensors: Storm radar, Addon Scanner (no others)
A significantly heavier variant of the Raptor UDV which cannot chase well, won't pick up a lot of cargo and has a slow cruising speed. However it will be relatively agile and has a lot of armor for a tough fight. It's supposed to be the big brother of the WTD to save those trade routes.
TPG Raptor UDV - Nighthawk variant (light chaser)
Armor: 9500
Cargo: 2
Weapons: 1 large port
Mass: 3600kg
Length: 17m
Thrust: 230N
Turbo Thrust: 300N
Max Speed: 70 m/s
Spin Torque: 8.5 Nm
Turbo Speed: 225 m/s
Turbo energy: 53/s
Implemented sensors: Storm radar, Cargo Scanner
The first ship to have a single large port. Low armor, medium agility, various stat-sacrifises to create a mean chaser with a single large port.
TPG Raptor UDV - Cargo Packer (Extended cargo variant)
Armor: 11000
Cargo: 25
Weapons: 2 large ports
Mass: 4500kg
Length: 17m
Thrust: 230N
Turbo Thrust: 330N
Max Speed: 65 m/s
Spin Torque: 8.5 Nm
Turbo Speed: 220 m/s
Turbo energy: 55/s
Implemented sensors: All that the basic UDV has.
The cargo hauling variant of the UDV. An exclusive ability for the UIT to quickly haul some important stuff without sacrifising much of the UDV's style.
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As you see, the various models try to match what the Serco and Itani already have: Multi purpose versions of their basic faction ship. I tried to build these ships around the basic variant of the Raptor UDV, which is the balanced variant of these special-purpose edititons.
The UDV Raptor Nighthawk will be a nice experiment as we have no ship with a single large port yet.
More ship variants. Hooray!
maybe give the Border Defender 2S & 1L or to be real different 2L 1S and the Nighthawk 2S instead of 1L
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You really think more ripoff ships would make things better? Inc already said they're working on new surprise content including new ship models so let's wait for that, you impatient little boy.
You really think more ripoff ships would make things better? Inc already said they're working on new surprise content including new ship models so let's wait for that, you impatient little boy.
Hoban-Wash-Washburne - I didn't want to give another ship deviant ports since the other nation ships usually have the same ports too. And because I already suggested the Nighthawk which would have a different layout than the other UDVs.
The first option for the boarder defender reminds me too much of Proms and Revs. The second one may be worth a thought. It'd be having the same ports as a Taur then, but less in a cargo hauler and more in a fighter fashion.
The Nighthawk was really my thought since I thought having a 1 LP chaser would be neat.
DN/joylessjoker - You -1 this idea because you think other content is coming? That is beyond stupid. The suggestion board is for bringing up new ideas to improve the game. And new ship variants is definitely that. What is cooking elsewehere at GuildSoftware's is irrelevant in here.
Either think of a better reason to -1 or don't post at all. I'm suggesting modifications of existing ships because that is more realistic then suggesting new ones.
The first option for the boarder defender reminds me too much of Proms and Revs. The second one may be worth a thought. It'd be having the same ports as a Taur then, but less in a cargo hauler and more in a fighter fashion.
The Nighthawk was really my thought since I thought having a 1 LP chaser would be neat.
DN/joylessjoker - You -1 this idea because you think other content is coming? That is beyond stupid. The suggestion board is for bringing up new ideas to improve the game. And new ship variants is definitely that. What is cooking elsewehere at GuildSoftware's is irrelevant in here.
Either think of a better reason to -1 or don't post at all. I'm suggesting modifications of existing ships because that is more realistic then suggesting new ones.
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bojansplash: is there a specific reason why you are against balancing the number of faction specific ships?
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1) Ships with large ports aren't supposed to be as fast and agile as light fighters. Nighthawk's 53/s isn't inifiturbo but it's close enough to be the new swarmhound. WONDERFUL! LETS SWARM EVERYONE AND RUN AWAY, ANNOYING THEM TO FITS!!!!
2) UIT isn't supposed to have combat-oriented ships as good as Itani and Serco. This just looks like a pathetic attempt to get everything without accepting the cost of the nationality choice that you made when creating your character.
1) Ships with large ports aren't supposed to be as fast and agile as light fighters. Nighthawk's 53/s isn't inifiturbo but it's close enough to be the new swarmhound. WONDERFUL! LETS SWARM EVERYONE AND RUN AWAY, ANNOYING THEM TO FITS!!!!
2) UIT isn't supposed to have combat-oriented ships as good as Itani and Serco. This just looks like a pathetic attempt to get everything without accepting the cost of the nationality choice that you made when creating your character.
JJ said it all.
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+1 again since joylessjoker did it twice
the ships suggested aren't even close to the valks and Proms. the existing UDV can already be used for swarming and running. we need to remove that too then?
and what do the UIT get then? they have nothing the itani and serco could not do. saying the UIT should not have aa good combat ships would only make sense if the UIT had something major suiting their background that the itani and serco do not have. naturally it would be something with cash and economy. but cash means nothing and the economy is broken. and it will not be fixed anytime soon.
so in the meantime give them ships.
the ships suggested aren't even close to the valks and Proms. the existing UDV can already be used for swarming and running. we need to remove that too then?
and what do the UIT get then? they have nothing the itani and serco could not do. saying the UIT should not have aa good combat ships would only make sense if the UIT had something major suiting their background that the itani and serco do not have. naturally it would be something with cash and economy. but cash means nothing and the economy is broken. and it will not be fixed anytime soon.
so in the meantime give them ships.
+1 to the UIT getting a really big and slow trading vessel because traders
Has anyone else noticed that ClarenceC only posts in threads that Sieger has a presence in? That's indeed very interesting to note.
@ClarenceC
The UDV itself is already the concession that Inc made to give UIT something more combat-worthy, and now you're begging for more? Ingrate.
If you like to pvp, UIT was a wrong choice unless it fits a specific RP, as simple as that. Make a new Itani or Serco character for the pvp role! Be like everyone else, and have a character in all nations so that you have access to everything. Problem solved!
@ClarenceC
The UDV itself is already the concession that Inc made to give UIT something more combat-worthy, and now you're begging for more? Ingrate.
If you like to pvp, UIT was a wrong choice unless it fits a specific RP, as simple as that. Make a new Itani or Serco character for the pvp role! Be like everyone else, and have a character in all nations so that you have access to everything. Problem solved!
DN/Joylessjoker - So your stance is basically: It should not happen because the UIT should not get combat ships?
As you may have noticed, I am not suggesting a new combat ship for the UIT, but variations of their already existing combat ship, like both other nations have.
It is literally too late to scream "But the UIT shouldn't have a combat ship as their faction exclusive" because they already do. And then we should be fair and give them variations of it... :-)
Or would you be fine with the UIT getting another, additional exclusive ship that is based on halung massive masses?
As you may have noticed, I am not suggesting a new combat ship for the UIT, but variations of their already existing combat ship, like both other nations have.
It is literally too late to scream "But the UIT shouldn't have a combat ship as their faction exclusive" because they already do. And then we should be fair and give them variations of it... :-)
Or would you be fine with the UIT getting another, additional exclusive ship that is based on halung massive masses?
As you may have noticed, I am not suggesting a new combat ship for the UIT, but variations of their already existing combat ship, like both other nations have.
Actually, you're asking for a variation of a variation of a ship. UDV is a variation of the original Raptor ship. It's like an Itani asking for a variation of X-1, which is silly and makes no sense.
It is literally too late to scream "But the UIT shouldn't have a combat ship as their faction exclusive" because they already do. And then we should be fair and give them variations of it... :-)
UIT already having a combat ship and an adequate one at that is reason sufficient to NOT get more combat ships for UIT.
Yes, it would make more sense for UIT to get a trading exclusive ship (a super deluxe version of behemoth XC that hauls 300 cu or whatever) than yet another raptor that's supposed to be an improvement over UDV. UIT isn't supposed to have combat ships that can stand up to valks or proms.
If you're bored sick of the game, more ship variations won't solve this problem. You just need a hiatus and after a while you'll come back refreshed and happy with the same old ships.
Actually, you're asking for a variation of a variation of a ship. UDV is a variation of the original Raptor ship. It's like an Itani asking for a variation of X-1, which is silly and makes no sense.
It is literally too late to scream "But the UIT shouldn't have a combat ship as their faction exclusive" because they already do. And then we should be fair and give them variations of it... :-)
UIT already having a combat ship and an adequate one at that is reason sufficient to NOT get more combat ships for UIT.
Yes, it would make more sense for UIT to get a trading exclusive ship (a super deluxe version of behemoth XC that hauls 300 cu or whatever) than yet another raptor that's supposed to be an improvement over UDV. UIT isn't supposed to have combat ships that can stand up to valks or proms.
If you're bored sick of the game, more ship variations won't solve this problem. You just need a hiatus and after a while you'll come back refreshed and happy with the same old ships.
+1 To ores suggestion of a slow trade ship. Maybe the NPC moth, or a XC with an activateable shield that last 20 seconds or so, but drains the powercell.
+1 to Jak's suggestion of a behemoth heavy with a 20 sec shield!
20 second is a little too OP. 5 seconds would be enough to barely escape most dangerous situations.
I don't think the nighthawk would be a good idea (nor is it the first ship with JUST a heavy port (Aeolus Light Behemoth)(unless you meant the first chaser with solely such)), but the others sound fine.
Some people have mentioned that the UIT shouldn't have as strong of ships, because they aren't fighting wars like the Itani/Serco, but I think you are wrong. the UIT engage in a civil war, and there are always the Hive Bots milling about; add on top that the UIT has done trade with both the Itani and the Serco (note: story indicates the Itani gave information to UIT, who were at first eager to learn; Serco traded stuff, maybe even military hardware(?), in eventual exchange for the secret of xithricite). finally, xithricite armor plating was originally a UIT concept, so they have had the most time to experiment with adding heavy armor to there ships. with those points, I think that should be moot.
However, I feel that the UDV should be a tad behind other ships, given that it is a considerably newer ship than the serco/Itani specials. you try to fix a product before introducing variants of it. Maybe its been long enough and new versions can be introduced, but I myself am not certain.
Some people have mentioned that the UIT shouldn't have as strong of ships, because they aren't fighting wars like the Itani/Serco, but I think you are wrong. the UIT engage in a civil war, and there are always the Hive Bots milling about; add on top that the UIT has done trade with both the Itani and the Serco (note: story indicates the Itani gave information to UIT, who were at first eager to learn; Serco traded stuff, maybe even military hardware(?), in eventual exchange for the secret of xithricite). finally, xithricite armor plating was originally a UIT concept, so they have had the most time to experiment with adding heavy armor to there ships. with those points, I think that should be moot.
However, I feel that the UDV should be a tad behind other ships, given that it is a considerably newer ship than the serco/Itani specials. you try to fix a product before introducing variants of it. Maybe its been long enough and new versions can be introduced, but I myself am not certain.