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Epic faction station assault
Make an even that happens periodically and is announced where by large amounts of small ships from one faction attacks a station belonging to another faction.
make nice drops for killing the attackers as well as faction bonus for helping (but not penalty against attacker faction)
this provides a way to regain lost faction standing , with a focus on the opposing factions in grey space where faction standing can't be regained without an enormous fee.
This creates an epic combat possibility that is planned and can have resources allocated to it more easily... and also makes it possible for UIT players to join in an epic combat scenario without sacrificing standing by participating in deneb.
This brings more players to stations that don't get much action and gives those stations more purpose.
This fits the game's backstory as well as the description of certain factions that you read in game as having opposing factions.
If this is a real possibility, maybe we can have a real discussion about where it should be done.. but since we can't know how easy or difficult it would be to implement such a thing, right now perhaps we can just discuss whether the idea is even in the cards.
make nice drops for killing the attackers as well as faction bonus for helping (but not penalty against attacker faction)
this provides a way to regain lost faction standing , with a focus on the opposing factions in grey space where faction standing can't be regained without an enormous fee.
This creates an epic combat possibility that is planned and can have resources allocated to it more easily... and also makes it possible for UIT players to join in an epic combat scenario without sacrificing standing by participating in deneb.
This brings more players to stations that don't get much action and gives those stations more purpose.
This fits the game's backstory as well as the description of certain factions that you read in game as having opposing factions.
If this is a real possibility, maybe we can have a real discussion about where it should be done.. but since we can't know how easy or difficult it would be to implement such a thing, right now perhaps we can just discuss whether the idea is even in the cards.
Sounds interesting. Similar to blockade system. Idk about what stations would this be good on....
The idea in general is interesting but this won't work:
> faction bonus for helping (but not penalty against attacker faction)
That way you could get both your red + blue standing up, which is not intended.
> in grey space where faction standing can't be regained without an enormous fee.
The mission with the fee is just one of several ways to get it back
So I think the whole faction standing part of the proposal is problematic (as is likely the "large amounts" + "nice drops" part), but that aside I do like the idea of such events that make the world seem more alive.
Maybe you could even do it as they did in Warframe that if you do not defend successfully the station gets destroyed and thus becomes unavailable. That'll provide the incentive to show up for these.
> faction bonus for helping (but not penalty against attacker faction)
That way you could get both your red + blue standing up, which is not intended.
> in grey space where faction standing can't be regained without an enormous fee.
The mission with the fee is just one of several ways to get it back
So I think the whole faction standing part of the proposal is problematic (as is likely the "large amounts" + "nice drops" part), but that aside I do like the idea of such events that make the world seem more alive.
Maybe you could even do it as they did in Warframe that if you do not defend successfully the station gets destroyed and thus becomes unavailable. That'll provide the incentive to show up for these.
This brings more players to stations that don't get much action and gives those stations more purpose.
There are many other ways to get action, like for example- "Guild based stations". That will make game more lively because players will have to manufacture a station and work together as a team later to attack or defend stations. Guild based stations can be used to produce upcoming capships parts & the people who has access to them or own them is able to share station inventory with guild etc.
There are many other ways to get action, like for example- "Guild based stations". That will make game more lively because players will have to manufacture a station and work together as a team later to attack or defend stations. Guild based stations can be used to produce upcoming capships parts & the people who has access to them or own them is able to share station inventory with guild etc.
xXWiseWolfXx, interesting idea for another thread. This thread is about faction on faction fighting, not guild on guild. Specifically because there are limited ways to regain subfaction standings.
where faction standing can't be regained without an enormous fee.
I have seen players killing voys in greyspace and nation space both & easily making 5-10 million credits per hour without capship. I don't think it's that enormous unless someone is continuosly killing players purposely and tanking their standings again & again. I mean there is whole grey line where your standing won't get tanked.
Specifically because there are limited ways to regain subfaction standings.
Well i have seen players regaining faction standings from hate to dislike by paying 30millions, those who don't want to pay ends up doing botting in nation space or take escort missions to regain standing slowly. If anything i believe it should get harder to regain faction standing for players who keeps tanking them again and again.
About limited ways :- Maybe add a mission which ask you to kill thousand of bots in either Unknown System or hive sectors in greyspace ofcourse capship kills don't count. So people who don't want to pay can shoot bots to regain so they don't have to pay enormous fees for subfactions standing. That will also give more use to unk system and more activity in greyspace.
I have seen players killing voys in greyspace and nation space both & easily making 5-10 million credits per hour without capship. I don't think it's that enormous unless someone is continuosly killing players purposely and tanking their standings again & again. I mean there is whole grey line where your standing won't get tanked.
Specifically because there are limited ways to regain subfaction standings.
Well i have seen players regaining faction standings from hate to dislike by paying 30millions, those who don't want to pay ends up doing botting in nation space or take escort missions to regain standing slowly. If anything i believe it should get harder to regain faction standing for players who keeps tanking them again and again.
About limited ways :- Maybe add a mission which ask you to kill thousand of bots in either Unknown System or hive sectors in greyspace ofcourse capship kills don't count. So people who don't want to pay can shoot bots to regain so they don't have to pay enormous fees for subfactions standing. That will also give more use to unk system and more activity in greyspace.
> Well i have seen players regaining faction standings from hate to dislike by paying 30millions, those who don't want to pay ends up doing botting in nation space or take escort missions to regain standing slowly. If anything i believe it should get harder to regain faction standing for players who keeps tanking them again and again.
I just took a repeatable and entirely free mission in grey that spawns waves of NPC of all nations - just pick who you kill and your standings are up in no time. Standings are trivial in this game in any direction. You can tank them as quickly as you can bring them up again.
I still like the thread's suggestion except for the standings part though.
I just took a repeatable and entirely free mission in grey that spawns waves of NPC of all nations - just pick who you kill and your standings are up in no time. Standings are trivial in this game in any direction. You can tank them as quickly as you can bring them up again.
I still like the thread's suggestion except for the standings part though.
Currently the only way to regain faction standing with factions like inuebis or others if you are completely tanked is to run about grey space and look for escort missions that have a destination to one of that faction's stations... on any given day, that will amount to about 2 or 3 for which you will gain about 1 point of standing. At this pace, it might as well be impossible... with several hundred points needed before you can even dock to do missions at that faction.
This is of course not the case with nations... since you can certainly sneak behind the border and kill bots. With that method you can recover enough to dock in just a few hours... but that doesn't work for grey space factions.
This suggestion had a two fold purpose. First the tremendous value of large events that are a spectacle to see and beneficial to participate in.. it would fit the neglected story lines regarding battling factions.. Second it makes a way for pilots to redeem themselves more quickly, because it is sensible that you would get better faction bonuses for helping them when it counts the most.
Please note that not everyone who has tanked their standing in those factions did so with nefarious intent. I remember having accidentally damaged someone at a XangXi station once, I had to run from the guards to my goli which was then under attack. To escape with my goli, I actually had to kill many guards with my rear turret... insuring that my standings were tanked all the way down and not coming back. I tried running escorts back then and realized how unrealistic that is,.. but some helpful friends in game put up the 90million credits or whatever it was at the time to buy my standing back. This is not really great and doesn't really do anything to punish "nefarious players" at all.. since the bulk of the map is national space or corvus anyway.
This is of course not the case with nations... since you can certainly sneak behind the border and kill bots. With that method you can recover enough to dock in just a few hours... but that doesn't work for grey space factions.
This suggestion had a two fold purpose. First the tremendous value of large events that are a spectacle to see and beneficial to participate in.. it would fit the neglected story lines regarding battling factions.. Second it makes a way for pilots to redeem themselves more quickly, because it is sensible that you would get better faction bonuses for helping them when it counts the most.
Please note that not everyone who has tanked their standing in those factions did so with nefarious intent. I remember having accidentally damaged someone at a XangXi station once, I had to run from the guards to my goli which was then under attack. To escape with my goli, I actually had to kill many guards with my rear turret... insuring that my standings were tanked all the way down and not coming back. I tried running escorts back then and realized how unrealistic that is,.. but some helpful friends in game put up the 90million credits or whatever it was at the time to buy my standing back. This is not really great and doesn't really do anything to punish "nefarious players" at all.. since the bulk of the map is national space or corvus anyway.