As far as following a convoy into nation space, that's as easily done with an orion hornet... easier in fact, as it has the infiniturbo and more cargo space. I don't use the Prom cuz its a cop out. Have you ever tried dealing with proms?

they're brutal,

the only saving grace is that there's some hope of getting some distance between you and them.

I prefer the SVG infinitely, which is a match for a valk.

I'm with Rene, theres no point saying the same thing over and over and so on, this thread will die if nobody posts, and if Ayn keeps bumping it, it will be locked :)

We could be here as long as these two :)

Oh c'mon, I haven't said my bit yet.

Nya, listen to me. The prom is my absolute favoritest ship in the world, and if both pilots are equal skill, the Skycommand trumps all in a 1v1 fight. SPEED IS NOT OF THE ESSENCE. THE GAME DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND TURBO SPEED AND ROCKETS.

http://www.vendetta-online.com/h/duelstats/page1.html

The top 4 pilots on that list are Skycommand users. Understand? The Skycommand prom would be SEVERELY BROKEN if it was able to seek, pursue and destroy as well as take on a pair of light fighters at once. You say its impossible to dodge 2 sets of rockets at once, you are wrong.

Reasons to use the other proms- mkI isn't very good. mkII has the largest hold, so can be used as a CtC carrier. The mkIII handles like the Skycommand with less armor and 55 drain.

The Skycommand is an uber ship in straight combat. The IDF is a superb all-round fighter. Neither needs to be changed.

The IBG can seriously harass both. The Vulturius plays havoc with your distance control. The MGC is still friggin scary if you have 21,000 hull or move like a ninja. Etc.

Well said. Maybe that argument will work better for you than it did for me.

Also, have you noticed that EVERYONE is uniting against Nya? Serco, Itani, UIT, pirates.

Maybe when they come out with the huge hive updates, they should rename the Levi to be the Nya13 so we'll all fight it together instead of turning on each other!

<< Reasons to use the other proms- mkI isn't very good. mkII has the largest hold, so can be used as a CtC carrier. The mkIII handles like the Skycommand with less armor and 55 drain. >>

people is flying in ragnarok, centaur and behemot.
that's explain how this ships are great.

<< the SCP has one weakness, it *is* slow to move around. it is a sector control ship, which is *good*. >>

oh dear what a useful ship in VO univers... "control a sector".

<< Itanis have a fast runner ship as their "best" ship (the IBG is a *lot* better of a dogfighter in skilled hands), Sercos have a tank that will control the close area it is in. these ships have different roles >>

unbalanced
itani will constantly use their best ships
while serco not. So in the end Serco use always sucky ships.

vulture < is probably their best ship!

Orion rev C and others are not Serco ships.

wow.. i go on vacation to somewhere without internet for 3 days and nya13 manages to inspire 8 pages of argument.. I hate missing the fun.. oh well better late than never.

Nya.. have you even read any of the responses you have gotten? there is absolutely NOTHING IMBALANCED ABOUT THE VALK, except that it looks like a potato which makes it a WONDERFUL target, which is a point against it, not for it.
your argument seems to be that the valk is better at something than the serco ships.. i'll reply to that with a very simple statement.

all ships are not equal.
all ships are not SUPPOSED to be equal.

do you understand now?

and before you rant and call me a noob or an itani.. i'm serco.. i've been serco for 2+ years..
I choose not to use the proms because THEY ARE TOO GOOD.
there is no challenge in sitting around in a tank with an AGT and some flares and swatting pesky little ships.

I fly a rag because at least when i load it with rails and megaposi's there are some ships i'm weak against.

Hear, hear! I've been trying to get him to see that "all ships are not SUPPOSED to be equal" for a good three pages now.

what's your reference?

prom isnt that uber.

you guys are sitting all days and doing consensual duel.

my reference is in the action war.

prom is good in dual (mean 1 vs 1) if you fight a light ship.
but in the battle the factor is all different.

Maybe Nya just can't read English. At least that would explain why he has completely ignored the arugments supported by fact made against him in now FIVE pages by every single poster.

On the other hand, wow. I've never seen the Vendetta community unite against someone like this. Well, other than Arolte anyways. Look, Vendetta Community (except Nya), we can all agree on something!

i am not surprised _Ghost_ :)

"the actual community" you have all the same vision of the play

i doubt it will be same when more players will play.

my reference..

try a year since release of doing:

Border patrol
CtC - attacking not defending.. nothing can keep up well during defense, but thats a CtC issue not a ship issue, but park about 3 proms in front of the convoy and even with 5 or 6 GOOD human defenders its toast. the proms can simply ignore the bots and humans.. kill the transports, grab the cargo and head to a random empty sector to regroup
Several organized battles, including capship wars and group combats.

the prom is almost balanced as it is.. its still a bit too strong. the Valk needs a boost, not a cut.. probably a very small increase in both mass and thrust so that weapons dont have quite as much effect on its performance.

and nya.. given that the vision of gameplay is fostered by the developers, and most of us that have it take OUR cue's from the developers.. i'm betting it wont change that much no matter HOW many people play.

You still have yet to come up with a convincing argument as to WHY the valk is overpowered, we've established that the stats are not a good indicator of ability in ships.

in a running battle you are correct, the valk is better than the prom due to the fact that it can keep up with a MOVING fight better. In a situation like the border patrol (an action war if more than 2 ppl participate) the prom has a definite advantage because it can control an area of space, namely sector c-10.

they have different jobs, you cant really compare them directly.. you have to compare how well they do the job they are supposed to do.

Ayn, I used the skycommand to obliterate groups of players trying to attack convoys.

The thing can take on multiple ships no problem.

But more importantly, you totally ignored UncleDave's comments. And he's a better Prom pilot than I am.

Cripes man. If you won't listen to me then at least listen to the factual statements presented by Shape, Spellcast and UncleDave: Three ALPHA TESTERS with more prom and valk experience than any of us could hope to have.

And if you think the prom is only good in 1 v 1 then you must not know how to fly it. I've seen Uncledave repeatedly fight 2 people by himself in his SCP and obliterate both people. He can attest to this. At least allow for the possibility that people with more experience than you (Shape, Spell, Uncledave and the slew of other Alpha testers that have posted) might have a better grasp on this than you.

shape is an alpha? wow i didnt know that...

I too am an alpha... but no enough prom experience as these 3, more of a SVG person...

Ask the Vipers about how the Sky Command take on multiple opponents. O.o

Besides if the prom sucks so much why couldn't you and your wingman kill mine before it chewed you both up.

Hmm. Locking the thread sounds pretty good right now, since we're obviously making no progress whatsoever...

Nya13's argument is teh ninny!

I killed over 200 Itani's in two days during BP with the SCP.
Now if someone wants to argue that the prom is balanced please get a valk and lets have a go.
And why the heck did everyone try to reason with Nya?
I mean seriously after the first 4 pages you would of thought to give up.
What a waste of bandwidth.

its something to do to pass the time kix.