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who is using the prometheus commander here?
Why the prometheus has 60 drain?
this probably the slowest ship in that game.
while the valkyrie is the faster.
what the heck?
55 drain turbo valk (fastest ship)
60 drain turbo prom (slowest ship)
??? sound like you are all itani on that forums.
no surprise.
i just want to see that prom faster than ragnarok and centaur.
Why the prometheus has 60 drain?
this probably the slowest ship in that game.
while the valkyrie is the faster.
what the heck?
55 drain turbo valk (fastest ship)
60 drain turbo prom (slowest ship)
??? sound like you are all itani on that forums.
no surprise.
i just want to see that prom faster than ragnarok and centaur.
Because it's much heavier, not just the speed. The prom mkII has infiniboost and hoilds 40 cu and has good armor, try using that one.
--Harpo
--Harpo
log into a prom and fight my ragnarok!
will see the best bomber ship!
bomber ship use rockets/swarms and AGT
their fat ass do not make a big difference.
the best damage win!
ragnarok and centaur have 2 Large ports
will see the best bomber ship!
bomber ship use rockets/swarms and AGT
their fat ass do not make a big difference.
the best damage win!
ragnarok and centaur have 2 Large ports
csgno!
prom commander is supposed to be the best prom.
why the heck i am going to use the mk II?
i prefer go to centaur and ragnarok then.
prom commander is supposed to be the best prom.
why the heck i am going to use the mk II?
i prefer go to centaur and ragnarok then.
Just because the rag or centaur has more L ports doesnt mean its better. I've beaten many rags with an IBG and IBGs don't have *ANY* L ports.
It's more a matter of skill. Also, you stated that you wanted a fast prom, *NOT* the best one. That was why csgno1 stated that you should try the prom II. Also, the prom is suppose to be slow. All that Xi-Rite Alloy armor makes it *slower* It's not suppose to be as fast.
It's more a matter of skill. Also, you stated that you wanted a fast prom, *NOT* the best one. That was why csgno1 stated that you should try the prom II. Also, the prom is suppose to be slow. All that Xi-Rite Alloy armor makes it *slower* It's not suppose to be as fast.
well according to you the prom is supposed to be slower than ragn and centaur lol
well...
ps : lot of people do not have any notion of balance at all.
some one could explain me why the prometheus has 55 and 60 drain?
it's not a fast ship. so why making it worse.
well...
ps : lot of people do not have any notion of balance at all.
some one could explain me why the prometheus has 55 and 60 drain?
it's not a fast ship. so why making it worse.
Nya, it is clear that you have no intentions of listening to any of our replies, not even from the most experienced and skilled pilots VO has to offer, who probably know the handling of the ships as good as the devs themselves [or perhaps even better; the devs don't have as much time to play the game as we do ,-)], but I will tell you this...
The first real important lesson I learned in VO, apart from Shape's dodging and aiming tips ;-), was to look beyond the stats of ships. The only way to know how a ship handles, is to actually try it. In VO, even the shape of ships affect how they fly (and, perhaps just as important, how easy they are to hit), and that is not reflected in the stats in any way. So, if you truly believe the valk is overpowered, to the point of being broken, get yerself one and fly it for a while. And you will see whether it is balanced or not. *Have* you even flown a valk, by the way?
The first real important lesson I learned in VO, apart from Shape's dodging and aiming tips ;-), was to look beyond the stats of ships. The only way to know how a ship handles, is to actually try it. In VO, even the shape of ships affect how they fly (and, perhaps just as important, how easy they are to hit), and that is not reflected in the stats in any way. So, if you truly believe the valk is overpowered, to the point of being broken, get yerself one and fly it for a while. And you will see whether it is balanced or not. *Have* you even flown a valk, by the way?
where is the logic in your raisement?
please watch the licence stats and ships stats!
why the commander is the worste Prom?
it's supposed to be the assault ship!
Mk II and III is better than it and has more CU.
look at the ragnarok MK II and III
http://www.vo-wiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ragnarok
after look at the prometheus Mk III and Commander.
http://www.vo-wiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Prometheus
please explain the 60 drain turbo?
somone?
please watch the licence stats and ships stats!
why the commander is the worste Prom?
it's supposed to be the assault ship!
Mk II and III is better than it and has more CU.
look at the ragnarok MK II and III
http://www.vo-wiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ragnarok
after look at the prometheus Mk III and Commander.
http://www.vo-wiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Prometheus
please explain the 60 drain turbo?
somone?
I still find it unfortunate that the prom did never receive 3 large slots since that is what a supreme bomber should be mainly known for. And iof you did make it into a tank and consider it to strong, maybe 2 large ports could be considered to be even more logic (in a way of balancing endurablity with firepower, although that is a difficult task)
However, at the moment I will agree that the scp is very powerfull since in reality it has the abilities of a heavy vulture and a lot of armour to soak up the errors that get made. Still, a rag but especially the tung centaur is just as nasty in expert hands. And in my view sometimes even nastier then the counterpart ragnarok, but maybe that will change once we get a factionspecific ragnarok in our hands.
Anyway, the reason why I think that nya is constantly stating that the prom should be a fast ship is because of its description. Its like a uberengine fit in a tank. Every logical point in my mind would immediately make a connection with a uberhigh topspeed (dragster) but a very low stamina. I would love to see a couple of tests in accelerationspeeds from both ships
Although I wouldn't mind to see the scp change from its current setup to a different setup, namely one of a XL weaponport :D. To really make it worth its name as supreme bomber, seeing as in my view we will see the most devestating anti-capshipweapons more as XL weapons (very long range, high damage, maybe even homingabilities but low manouvrability). And capships having XXL weapons :D which will be uber at fighting off fighter type ships and maybe even contain anti - missile weapons.
Anyway, im not going to take a note about the valk, since it has a severe handicap, but once people do put a double flare on it (sometimes even a tripple), it moves way better then a vulture similarly loaded (heck a triflare valk moved even better then a dual flare vult) and is extremely deadly agaisnt any IBG pilot that has never considered rockets as a deadly tool. But just like in all weapontypes, it is after all a game of luck. I killed valks in my quadflare hornet, but I also killed quadflare hornets in my triflare valk. I was however never able to take down an scp with a valk... take potshots (hit and run) all i want, but take down... nope.
Not to mention that in a war (N vs N) so to say valks are easy meat if they do not use the hit and run tactic, while proms can easilly use a spray and pray tactic and thereby at least take down a couple with them before going down. And the hornet and vult loaded with full rockets has the exact same difficulty as the valk. Hit a hornet (or zornet like I loved to call them) once with a dual flare layout and it spins till tomorrow.
Once more, in my mind the ships are pretty well balanced, and it is quite normal that an elite bus (with low level requirements and only x buskills) isn't as powerfull as the same high levelrequirements (not to mention faction) valk and SCP. But like I said before, I still find it unfortunate that there is no elite ragnarok that can sorta double as the counterpart of the prom scp (with superior firepower, but lesser hull).Just as (in my mind) a special hornet can somewhat double a valk with moderate success. I'm not going to talk about the other proms, since these are well balanced with the normal shiptypes.I'm sure many people can take out a prom mk1 - mk3 wielding the same dual flare- agt layout as get used in the SCP.
And just as a point of interest I'm saying this as a serco.
However, at the moment I will agree that the scp is very powerfull since in reality it has the abilities of a heavy vulture and a lot of armour to soak up the errors that get made. Still, a rag but especially the tung centaur is just as nasty in expert hands. And in my view sometimes even nastier then the counterpart ragnarok, but maybe that will change once we get a factionspecific ragnarok in our hands.
Anyway, the reason why I think that nya is constantly stating that the prom should be a fast ship is because of its description. Its like a uberengine fit in a tank. Every logical point in my mind would immediately make a connection with a uberhigh topspeed (dragster) but a very low stamina. I would love to see a couple of tests in accelerationspeeds from both ships
Although I wouldn't mind to see the scp change from its current setup to a different setup, namely one of a XL weaponport :D. To really make it worth its name as supreme bomber, seeing as in my view we will see the most devestating anti-capshipweapons more as XL weapons (very long range, high damage, maybe even homingabilities but low manouvrability). And capships having XXL weapons :D which will be uber at fighting off fighter type ships and maybe even contain anti - missile weapons.
Anyway, im not going to take a note about the valk, since it has a severe handicap, but once people do put a double flare on it (sometimes even a tripple), it moves way better then a vulture similarly loaded (heck a triflare valk moved even better then a dual flare vult) and is extremely deadly agaisnt any IBG pilot that has never considered rockets as a deadly tool. But just like in all weapontypes, it is after all a game of luck. I killed valks in my quadflare hornet, but I also killed quadflare hornets in my triflare valk. I was however never able to take down an scp with a valk... take potshots (hit and run) all i want, but take down... nope.
Not to mention that in a war (N vs N) so to say valks are easy meat if they do not use the hit and run tactic, while proms can easilly use a spray and pray tactic and thereby at least take down a couple with them before going down. And the hornet and vult loaded with full rockets has the exact same difficulty as the valk. Hit a hornet (or zornet like I loved to call them) once with a dual flare layout and it spins till tomorrow.
Once more, in my mind the ships are pretty well balanced, and it is quite normal that an elite bus (with low level requirements and only x buskills) isn't as powerfull as the same high levelrequirements (not to mention faction) valk and SCP. But like I said before, I still find it unfortunate that there is no elite ragnarok that can sorta double as the counterpart of the prom scp (with superior firepower, but lesser hull).Just as (in my mind) a special hornet can somewhat double a valk with moderate success. I'm not going to talk about the other proms, since these are well balanced with the normal shiptypes.I'm sure many people can take out a prom mk1 - mk3 wielding the same dual flare- agt layout as get used in the SCP.
And just as a point of interest I'm saying this as a serco.
I guess Nya just doesnt get it =\
where did you read that i am wanting a fast prometheus??????
do you really think a prometheus with 55 drain boost is fast????
all i am wanting to see is that commander should has 55 drain instead of the actual 60.
60 is making it the actual slowest ship.
it supposed to be the best prom!
so where am i wrong?
2) i do not care if prom should have 3 Large ports or others...
i am just pointing at the illogical 60 drain turbo on the prometheus commander while... (read posts above)
... IDF valkyrie has 55 drain turbo
3) the rockets is turning the game into a gank fest pvp.
so easly to shoot in the back with it.
splash radius is too big.
do you really think a prometheus with 55 drain boost is fast????
all i am wanting to see is that commander should has 55 drain instead of the actual 60.
60 is making it the actual slowest ship.
it supposed to be the best prom!
so where am i wrong?
2) i do not care if prom should have 3 Large ports or others...
i am just pointing at the illogical 60 drain turbo on the prometheus commander while... (read posts above)
... IDF valkyrie has 55 drain turbo
3) the rockets is turning the game into a gank fest pvp.
so easly to shoot in the back with it.
splash radius is too big.
what's wrong with all of you?
*gets out the ClueBat™*
I've said it once, and I'll say it again.
Nya, you need to use your SHIFT key, and make your posts more coherent. Address the issues other people bring up, and don't write them off like you have been.
Every one of your posts in this thread has been incoherent or otherwise poorly written, has written off what people have said, and once again demands that we all give into your requests. If you won't listen to our arguments, then prepare to us to not take you seriously.
I've said it once, and I'll say it again.
Nya, you need to use your SHIFT key, and make your posts more coherent. Address the issues other people bring up, and don't write them off like you have been.
Every one of your posts in this thread has been incoherent or otherwise poorly written, has written off what people have said, and once again demands that we all give into your requests. If you won't listen to our arguments, then prepare to us to not take you seriously.
Nya's posts brighten my day with laughter.
lol
well read this :
- prometheus skycommander need a 55 drain turbo
- flares need a 20 or 25 max splash radius
- valkyrie need a 60 drain turbo
is it clear? ¨¨
- will "the 55 drain on skycommander" make that ship fast?
NO.
- will "the rockets with 20 or 25 max splash radius" kill flares?
NO. but it will stop the abusing gank in game.
it s used like the old swarms.
well read this :
- prometheus skycommander need a 55 drain turbo
- flares need a 20 or 25 max splash radius
- valkyrie need a 60 drain turbo
is it clear? ¨¨
- will "the 55 drain on skycommander" make that ship fast?
NO.
- will "the rockets with 20 or 25 max splash radius" kill flares?
NO. but it will stop the abusing gank in game.
it s used like the old swarms.
I have lost all capacity for disbelief. I don't think I could even rise to a little gentle skepticism right now.
Point: Valk is supposed to be faster than the prom, thats why it has 55 drain and the prom has 60. Why? Because the Valk is a light, quick fighter and the prom is a heavy, tank-like assault craft.
And woah, did you just suggest that the prom should have less drain than the valk? I fail to see any reason behind this. I will reiterate: Prom = heavily armored assault craft = SLOW
Valk = light space superiority fighter = FAST
I can't imagine taking the one thing away from the valk that gives it its only advantage over the prom (and a very small one at that). At least take a hint by now from the fact that there is not one single person who has agreed with you in the 3 pages of this thread.
SCP is too good as it is and you're suggesting that it gets made better...
Point: Valk is supposed to be faster than the prom, thats why it has 55 drain and the prom has 60. Why? Because the Valk is a light, quick fighter and the prom is a heavy, tank-like assault craft.
And woah, did you just suggest that the prom should have less drain than the valk? I fail to see any reason behind this. I will reiterate: Prom = heavily armored assault craft = SLOW
Valk = light space superiority fighter = FAST
I can't imagine taking the one thing away from the valk that gives it its only advantage over the prom (and a very small one at that). At least take a hint by now from the fact that there is not one single person who has agreed with you in the 3 pages of this thread.
SCP is too good as it is and you're suggesting that it gets made better...
please _ghost_
look at the stats before to post :/
prometheus mk III has 55
prometheus skycommander has 60
prometheus is heavy ship
valkyrie is light ship
dont compare their drain turbo!
god!
compare between heavy ships.
the skycommander should has 55 like the Mk III
60 it total illogical for a heavy ship.
thats why i am saying it's actually the slowest ship.
look at the stats before to post :/
prometheus mk III has 55
prometheus skycommander has 60
prometheus is heavy ship
valkyrie is light ship
dont compare their drain turbo!
god!
compare between heavy ships.
the skycommander should has 55 like the Mk III
60 it total illogical for a heavy ship.
thats why i am saying it's actually the slowest ship.
IS IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND???
DAMN YOU NOOBS!!!
DAMN YOU NOOBS!!!
*twacks Nya with the ClueBat™*
Quit yer bellyachin'.
Hey look everybody! It's a troll!
Quit yer bellyachin'.
Hey look everybody! It's a troll!
First of all I am fully aware of the stats of the ships. Maybe you should listen to what several people have already said in above posts. Stats are not very important when it comes to ship performance.
60 drain would be completely logical for a heavy ship. Why? Because it's heavy. It has more mass. The prom is supposed to be relatively slow. It's a friggin tank. And for the record you were the one who began comparing drains between the valk and prom when you suggested that the Valk should have a drain of 60 and the prom should have a drain of 55. The only reason I can see behind a suggestion like that is you want the prom (the slower of the two) to be able to chase down the faster of the two...
Fine, you know what, I don't care. The Valk is already completely dominated by the prom, now lets make it so that the one ability it has, to keep its distance, is now void as well. While we're at it, why don't we just all fly proms. Cause there's nothing that competes with it at the moment and now we're suggesting that other ships be toned down even more while the Prom is given more battlefield mobility. That's great. Let's do it.
"IS IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND???
DAMN YOU NOOBS!!!" -Nya
Lol. Do you realize that you are the only person arguing your case and that every single person who has posted in this thread has violently disagreed with you? One might take that as a sign that perhaps we're not the ones who are having a difficult time understanding. Oh, and please be aware that you just called some of the more experienced players in the game (several alpha as well as beta players) noobs... yes I can see your argument has a lot of basis.
60 drain would be completely logical for a heavy ship. Why? Because it's heavy. It has more mass. The prom is supposed to be relatively slow. It's a friggin tank. And for the record you were the one who began comparing drains between the valk and prom when you suggested that the Valk should have a drain of 60 and the prom should have a drain of 55. The only reason I can see behind a suggestion like that is you want the prom (the slower of the two) to be able to chase down the faster of the two...
Fine, you know what, I don't care. The Valk is already completely dominated by the prom, now lets make it so that the one ability it has, to keep its distance, is now void as well. While we're at it, why don't we just all fly proms. Cause there's nothing that competes with it at the moment and now we're suggesting that other ships be toned down even more while the Prom is given more battlefield mobility. That's great. Let's do it.
"IS IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND???
DAMN YOU NOOBS!!!" -Nya
Lol. Do you realize that you are the only person arguing your case and that every single person who has posted in this thread has violently disagreed with you? One might take that as a sign that perhaps we're not the ones who are having a difficult time understanding. Oh, and please be aware that you just called some of the more experienced players in the game (several alpha as well as beta players) noobs... yes I can see your argument has a lot of basis.