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Pilots thread for nerfing the prom

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Oct 26, 2005 LeberMac link
Ghost, the Prom pilots (when I was there early Tues night) were A-Dawg, Faceless, and yes, even SpaceHunter went to go get a prom.

Needless to say, I died lots in my Rev C, but the other Itani pilots racked up kills cause they used missiles, which kind of ate the Prom's lunch.

Corbin, good observation. Proms are useful for defensive ships, but are also quite nice when flown aggressively. I know that if I'm in B-8 with A-Dawg, he's always gunnin for me, and he's never without his Prom.

And terjek, I've gone up against Matriarch 1 v 1 in my rev C and once lived for almost 3 minutes, damaging her to maybe 80%... Heh. (Oh well.)
Oct 26, 2005 ananzi link
well if you just made it cost 100,000 credits that would be 'nerfing' it better than any of these stupid ideas.
Oct 26, 2005 moldyman link
I did not use missiles. -.-

NUKE HORNET! =D
Oct 26, 2005 Nya13 link
people keep talking to me that i must try ships in game
well
i am probably a newb and use only BUS in game...

this is funny!
Oct 26, 2005 Spellcast link
""i am probably a newb and use only BUS in game..""

Nya.. give us a break.... you have access to all the ships, either that or you were really wasting everyones time when you posted this.

http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/11858
Oct 26, 2005 tamdang link
lol

really funny

well let's nerf the prom!

i use the valkyries now lol
Oct 26, 2005 Ion link
Hmm, does anyone else get the feeling tamdang is a trial account created by Nya to support his own opinions in this thread?

If I'm wrong, tamdang, then please, excuse me for associating you with him ;-)
Oct 26, 2005 Ghost link
It must be. I've not known one other person to agree with him about such things. And all this leads me to believe that he has still not fought a decent pilot in an agt-flare prom while using a valk himself.
Oct 26, 2005 Martin link
I used to think language barrier, but now I'm thinking troll.
Oct 26, 2005 Ion link
Yeah. And I'm thinking language barrier-troll, which could concievably be even worse...

Ghost, you are probably right. It seems to like he could be telling the truth: perhaps he has flown only busses, and was blinded by the stats of the valk when perusing the VO wiki. That could explain almost all of his posts. Well, the little of them that actually pertains to the threads they are in.

The brazen impudence, trollish mentality and blatant disregard for the opinions of others, I would not even dare try to explain... ;-)

EDIT: Sorry for the OTishness. Am not going to hijack your thread any more, Pilot.
Oct 26, 2005 who? me? link
no one trolls better than me
Oct 26, 2005 thergvk link
NO YOU IDIOT I CAN TROLL BETTER!!!!!!!
Oct 26, 2005 Ghost link
/me looks for genka
Oct 26, 2005 Dark Knight link
[OT]

"Ghost, you are probably right. It seems to like he could be telling the truth: perhaps he has flown only busses, and was blinded by the stats of the valk when perusing the VO wiki. That could explain almost all of his posts. Well, the little of them that actually pertains to the threads they are in."

Ion, either way he's a huge liar. If he really only does fly busses, then what's this?

http://www.vendetta-online.com/x/msgboard/3/11858?page=3#143107

And if he's telling the truth about having a rag, then he's lying about the busses. The guy's a troll, plain and simple.

I'm agreeing on the "tamdang" issue too. In the six pages of the "OMFG NERF THE VALK" thread, NOT ONE person agreed with Nya.

Let's list just WHAT is so unlikely about Nya and tamdang being two separate people!

1) tamdang agrees with Nya, which is simply unprecendented

2) We've never seen tamdang anywhere (forums OR in game) before this, and yet he can supposedly fly a valk. Yet he posts on this specific thread, singling out Nya's post out of all others, and responds only to that argument

3) tamdang decided to post for the first time within two hours of aforementioned post

4) He types with the same grammatical and spelling errors as Nya

5) This topic has ben mentioned in an earlier thread, which tamdang *must* have been around for, since he's been around long enough to level to the point where he can fly a valk. Yet he didn't post there at the time. Hmmmm....

The odds of these conditions occuring coincidentally are simply astronomical. They seem to be about the same as those of Nya/tamdang flying into a system with me in it and coming out alive, from what Martin's said about his piloting skills.... ;)

Time for a troll hunt. *passes out pitchforks and torches*

[/OT]

I haven't had enough experience with Proms to be a good judge of whether or not to nerf them, so I'm staying neutral for now.

EDIT: Don't go over to IRC to ask Genka to come over here... I made that mistake once. *shudders* If you do decide that you have to, and he asks you if he seems like a b****, get the hell outta there while you've still got your pride intact. =P
Oct 26, 2005 Ghost link
I think proms are alright for what they are atm. But there's no way I'll take one on by myself while I'm in a valk. So a note to those who fly proms, namely SCP's: Don't be surprised if you get double teamed, because taking on an agt-flare Prom 1 on 1 in most ships = death.
Oct 26, 2005 Corbin Armond link
I my self fly SCPs with the intention of having to fight more then one person, I used to fly Taurs and Rev Cs, but after many fights were my armor could not out last the barrages, I up graded to the beefier Prom. Sure I can't run any thing down any more, but I also am no longer killed as much in the defense of my nation.

Oh and Leber, I seem to remember many times when you and smittens 2 v 1ed me with out any wins. Matter of fact the only time any of you won was when I stepped in to a Rev C per your duel request and then some one who's name will remain unnamed but has already been named in this post and is not you... Attacked me.
Oct 26, 2005 LeberMac link
Yeah and that person is a.....
KILL STEALER!
Hehe

I admire yer SCP-flying skills, Faceman, when my supposed wingman Smittens was not arguing with Maso about who was the bigger a-hole (leaving me to fend for myself against SCP), indeed you got the better of "us"...
Oct 27, 2005 bojansplash link
Actually.......it all depends on the prom pilot.
I killed a number of average pilots in SCPs using valk or maud.
Expert SCP pilots are quite a different thing. Managed to beat a bunch using tung taur...... only........some of them ..... mainly Uncle Dave & Matriarch...give me the shivers.

Mr Armond posted an interesting theory about defense/attack ships I have to disagree with.
PROMS= destroyers/bombers, VALKS= interceptors.
Imho valk lacks firepower to be a serious attack ship, good interceptor yes.
Light interceptors were always the best defense ships and bombers had only one use = attack and devastation.
And if a heavy armored bomber also has the ability to move like a light ship /and SCP does/ it is a true multipurpose attack uber ship.
Oct 27, 2005 Nya13 link
i wonder how is the SCP without flares in game!

you keep locating the wrong problem!

...

PS . it's true a PROM is hard to beat 1 vs 1

but you do not get a kill in a PROM. (unless against an idiot that have no clue how to manage a fight)

why?

because the current weapon used in PROM (like all heavy ships)
: AGT + FLARES

AGT and FLares work only when you are close
Flares do a great damage
AGT AIM

...

Already told you the problem :

- SCP 60 drain turbo is not correct (55 is correct)
- Flares detonation (30m) is not correct ( 20 or 25 is correct)

- Valkyries 55 drain turbo is not correct if you keep the actual 60 drain turbo on SCP. change the valk or the PROM drain turbo.
Oct 27, 2005 Harry Seldon link