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Nerf the N3s and AAPs

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Dec 05, 2006 WE WANT LEEBS! link
They are everywhere, and they are so uber compared to the other guns they have marginalized everything else.

(while you are at it, nerf Law guns too)

(and while you are at *that*, nerf the AGT's too).
Dec 05, 2006 SuperMegaMynt link
Fishing for Law guns is absurd.
Dec 05, 2006 bojansplash link
There is nothing uber about neuts mk3, aaps or laws.
You still need to aim and actually hit with them.

If anything deserves nerfing its agt.
Rockets were already nerfed but nerf them again if you need to nerf something.
Dec 05, 2006 Zed1985 link
booo to nerfing!
Dec 05, 2006 Aramarth link
I cannot agree to nerfing these weapons, as they are what I consider the easier to defeat choices of my opponents.
Dec 05, 2006 moldyman link
I think the weps are fine, the way they are, even the AGT.
Dec 05, 2006 Dr. Lecter link
No more nerfing. Of anything. Everytime I see this game digress towards matched pistols at dawn it pisses me off more and more.

IBGs shouldn't be able to kill proms with much if any success. Light fighters should have a devil of a time getting near a heavy ship carrying an agt. Flares should hurt--a lot. And those obnoxious tin cans with all energy should be the ones that don't have to reload, can be a pain in the ass to hit and generally make life miserable when flown well.

Basta.
Dec 05, 2006 who? me? link
lets increase the stuff you have to have to get them.
Dec 05, 2006 Will Roberts link
Disapproved. Resubmit in 30 days, for further disapproval.
Dec 05, 2006 tumblemonster link
I don't think any of the weapons need nerfing. I rarely use N3s and never use APPs. If I'm fighting a guy with n3s I never know it, he still dies, just maybe a couple shots later than he would have. The AGT is fine too I think.

It would be neat if flares and missiles could be shot down by energy weapons. It might add a neat new dimension to combat.
Dec 05, 2006 Dr. Lecter link
Shot down would need to equal detonation rather than vanishing, though.
Dec 05, 2006 SuperMegaMynt link
[Sarcasm] If anything needs nerfing, it's the Gatling Cannon.[/Sarcasm]
Dec 05, 2006 WE WANT LEEBS! link
Ok, let's not nerf anything.

In fact, let's give ALL guns AGT autoaim!!!!!

Seriously people, what the guns you see in fights?

(a) N3s/Lawguns/Posis
(b) AGT
(c) Flares

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(BIG GAP)
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(d) Gauss
(e) N2s

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(Everything else here.)

What's the point of the other guns? Anyway, can see how this thread is going. Last post.

[NINNY]
Dec 05, 2006 Dr. Lecter link
You're never going to find an equal distribution of weapons among players. I submit that a majority of the player base is more or less equal in skill and weapons preference: hence there are lots of the same loadout. Nerf one combo for being popular and too easy to use, people will (1) bitch and (2) switch en masse to the next most popular load out.

AGT auto aim is not a "bad thing" per se, regardless of VO being skill based or Shape being whiney. AGT auto aim should be ballanced by repeat rate, energy consumption, mass of the turret and damage per hit--and it is. The same trade offs are present in the gauss/plasmadev series, though in a different ballance. And so on and so forth.

Leave it the fuck alone already. Do something useful, like buffing the Valk to be a better match to the Prom series.
Dec 05, 2006 Jim Kirk link
Lecter is right, much as he is rude.

The Valk needs serious buffing... The weapons are decent right now, as there are much more important things to deal with currently, i.e. the new economy, I can't wait! There is actually going to be a dynamic (to some level) economy!!!
Dec 05, 2006 tumblemonster link
As I said, I use N2s almost exclusively when Im not flying the Atlas of Doom.

I can still beat down any N3 or AAP pilot with ease.

Pansies.
Dec 06, 2006 Dark Knight link
I still say we just nerf Shape.
Dec 06, 2006 Shapenaji link
Try the whine Lecter, its an excellent year
Dec 06, 2006 Dr. Lecter link
Yawn. You want to actually try and make an argument that I'm whining or just toss it out there unsubstantiated?
Dec 07, 2006 tumblemonster link
I second Shape's non-argument.

Whiner.