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Scout Report: SKV-TGFT Conflict

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Sep 02, 2015 biretak link
"the problem may be that all you ever do is talk bullshit on the VO forums. that doesn't really make you any significant if ya ask me...?" -- MrAbsurd

awe, feeling sore? Talk about lack of constructive role-play! I'm amazed at the number of people who want to drive other from vo just because their pvp might not be on their level yet. Must be the fear of the improvement of the new player?
Sep 02, 2015 Inevitable link
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Sep 02, 2015 Savet link
I would just like to take a moment to reflect:

SKV hates TGTF
TGFT hates SKV
RED/ONE hates TGFT
SKV is at odds with RED/ONE
ITAN is at odds with TGFT and RED/ONE
PA is at odds with RED/ONE and SKV

SKV, TGFT, RED/ONE, ITAN, and PA all acknowledge the consistent honorable nature of FAMY.

Let's all try to be more like the noble extortionists.
Sep 03, 2015 H.Hornblower link
Saver: I reservedly agree. Extortionists can be reasoned with and we can all carry on with our comings and goings in the verse. Belligerent partisans such as SKV seem to be inflicted with a bloodlust and crave hostilities. This is evident in their ludicrous terms for a Non Aggression Pact with TGFT and their continued tyranny over the three stations. For my part I appreciate the reasonable services FAMY provides, especially in minimizing the number of free agents engaging in piracy. If only an agreement could be reached whereby FAMY no longer actively defends SKV tyranny over the three conquerable stations.
Sep 03, 2015 bojansplash link
Incorrect on all counts Blower Of Horns.

1. casus belli for this war is well known. You can call us all the names you want, that is exactly what losers in any war say about the winning side. Your vanity and your reliance on spreading lies about this war, as well as resorting to manipulation and cheating will be your ultimate downfall.

2. there are no terms for a Non Aggression Pact with TGFT nor there ever were any

3. our generous offers for unconditional TGFT surrender have been rejected multiple times and we have no intention of putting any new offers on the table. This is now a war to total destruction.

4. there is no 'SKV tyranny over three conquerable stations'. Everyone uses them freely except TGFT - as it should be.
Sep 03, 2015 joeGalloway link
"Everyone uses them freely except TGFT - as it should be."

Really? Even Serco? That's funny.
Sep 03, 2015 bojansplash link
Itani nation has a millennia long conflict with The Serco Dominion.

I presumed it goes without saying that Itani military do not allow station access to Serco military but I forgot that some people are a bit slow so they need additional explanations, my apology.
Sep 03, 2015 bojansplash link
@Blower (in reply to his, now deleted, post)

1. casus belli: TGFT put SKV on KOS list, further fortified after exposure of TGFT_utilities honey pot scam, TGFT vote mute task force and autobombing plugin.

2. Non Agression Pact is something entirely different from Unconditional surrender, please check your dictionary Blower Of Horns. Our offer was pertinent to the UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER which is now irrelevant since TGFT rejected all our offers. No further offers will be put on the table and the whole subject is now moot.

4. Arta Caelestis Ralor is on SKV KOS list for a very long time now and has no access to stations.
The force of moron is too strong with that one and he cannot be allowed access for sanitary reasons.
His recent request was thus denied.
Sep 03, 2015 bojansplash link
@Blower (in reply to his another, now deleted, post where he claimed that Unconditional surrender means no conditions for the surrendering party and called me a liar)

Unconditional surrender implies TGFT is in no position to set any conditions for their surrender and has to accept surrender exclusively on our terms.
For clarity: Unconditional surrender

Your information about our terms for TGFT surrender are out of date anyway, our 2nd offer was:

1. TGFT declares their surrender in RP forum and apologizes to the complete VO player base for being the worst unethical manipulative scum VO has ever seen

2. TGFT pays war reparations in the amount of 5 billion credits

3. TGFT pays monthly rent for access to SKV stations in the amount of 100 mil. credits.

However, if you can get it through that thick skull of yours - all offers were rejected.
SKV will not put any more offers on the table and this war will go on forever.
Should I perhaps draw it to you?

There will be no Non Aggression pact, there will be no surrender, there will be only TGFT deaths until TGFT is no more.

P.S. Blower, next time before you rush your snake tongue please use DICTIONARY so you don't end up looking like an idiot. The force of moron is growing very strong with you lately.
Sep 03, 2015 joeGalloway link
so do you always resort to personal attacks when arguing?
Sep 03, 2015 i82blikeu link
Please HH, don't let Bojan's words stop you!
Keep your good "roleplay-dressed propaganda" job going.
We love it! (and we have popcorn too).
Sep 03, 2015 bojansplash link
@Galloway

No personal attacks were committed here, I only stated the facts and apologized for not thinking things through (i was hopeful some things should not need further explanations - I was wrong).
Sep 03, 2015 joeGalloway link
" I forgot that some people are a bit slow so they need additional explanations"

"The force of moron is too strong with that one and he cannot be allowed access for sanitary reasons."

Hmm /me wonders what you classify as a personal attack.
Sep 03, 2015 bojansplash link
@Galloway

" I forgot that some people are a bit slow so they need additional explanations"

I am sorry but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and talks like a duck - I call it a duck.
I don't call it a feathery winged entity with webbed feet that goes "quack".

"The force of moron is too strong with that one and he cannot be allowed access for sanitary reasons."

Vlad has a long history of 'applied moronics' on VO website forums and in-game so I am not going to take you seriously on this.

P.S. Hornblower - deleting your venomous 'faux pas' posts will not make you look smarter.
Just bow your head in shame and let people see who you really are.
Sep 03, 2015 biretak link
Bojan sounds like a blind religious zealot on a crusade.
Sep 03, 2015 i82blikeu link
H.Hornblower, post deleting much?
lameeeeee Horatio lameeeee!
Sep 03, 2015 davejohn link
SKV wants 5 billion from TGFT ? Well , I suppose they will need it to prop their bank account up now they have let a yoda alt in their guild ....
Sep 03, 2015 Sieger link
1. Bojan is adorable. I started to find you stupid and annoying a bit back, but then I realized that you can't help yourself with your behaviour and now I just find you adorable. <3
2. Same goes to the man with that emo-account name, i82blikeu. He is cute in his own way. Who is that in game and is he relevant? Probably not.
3. Scheißt euch ein!
Sep 03, 2015 Savet link
I don't want to derail or detract from the discussion at hand, which is quite entertaining, but I did want to comment on our station policy.

FAMY has long held the position that we help defend resources which we are granted access to, so long as the attacker is also providing us access. Before the whole SKV/TGFT thing started, I remember that YT communicated this position to TGFT on several occasions. TGFT could have made the decision to enlist our services by granting such access but chose not to. SKV had the good sense to do so.

For us to offer this arrangement again to TGFT would require that:
A) TGFT be able to formally commit to a long-term understanding of such an arrangement along with a demonstration that they can abide by such an arrangement.
B) Demonstration that TGFT has the ability to hold stations for any significant period of time.

At present neither seems likely.

We strive to remain as neutral as possible given the nature of our business, and I have personally lobbied on several occasions to remove KOS designation for TGFT as a whole which was applied for the individual actions of specific TGFT leadership.

Please continue the discussions.
Sep 04, 2015 i82blikeu link
@singer, i'm absolutely irrelevant... cause i'm 24/7 moving XCs full of shit from/to N2