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lmao. i make a completely sane statemet and you post some dumbass meme? it indeed makes no sense that an itani nationalist guild fights traders. it makes no sense unless you have some idiotic illusions.
that you constantly get burned in this thread by various people and none of your guild buddies come to your aid and rather remain silent in shame underlines this point.
that you constantly get burned in this thread by various people and none of your guild buddies come to your aid and rather remain silent in shame underlines this point.
@greenwall
Nah I was joking, you don't win. You played your last card with false argumentation. You don't even know how the war started.
@Harpo
Can you make one coherent post instead of 6-7, it's a bit hard to address all of your thoughts like this and not miss something.
1. In the year & half I mentioned I went on a business trip once that lasted 4 months. Before I left ONE was almost completely inactive and TGFT stopped even trying to take stations. VOID was still helping us keep the peace. That happened 6 months ago so lets say a year after we successfully kept RED, ONE & TGFT at bay constantly.
2. When I returned around 1-2 months ago I found out that VOID became a TGFT puppet guild and TGFT was again controlling everything. VOID declared war on us.
3. We organized the best we could to fend off TGFT, VOID & ONE in greyspace and put stations under our control again. As we now had an additional enemy in VOID, after a month, or lets say 2 weeks ago we decided to make a loose truce for station access with weakened ONE in order to not disperse our forces too much and concentrate on destroying VOID & TGFT alliance as the biggest threat of all we were fighting at the moment.
4. As most of SKV are european and we actually sleep during your nights, we were unable to stop tsrektum auto-bombing bots from taking stations at nights/early mornings.Thanks to allowing access to ONE who still have some presence at that time of the night/day we managed to reduce our combat workload and concentrate on exiling VOID and TGFT out of grey.
5, Could we have turned to Itan for that instead of trusting ONE? No. In the last year and half Itan has ignored our alliance and actively sided with our TGFT enemy so that was really not an option. We accepted your decision to continue colluding with our enemies and were still giving you unlimited access to all conq stations.
6. We actually don't need stations and the only reason we put them under our control is to deny access to our TGFT & VOID enemies.
So, let's say ONE & SKV share the common goal in that regard at this time.
7. Itan, on the other hand, has been actively working with TGFT & VOID against us and now you expect us to accept you back as an ally with a vague notion that you might turn your back on TGFT? Sorry that would be a suicide since you would just continue to give access to all your TGFT & VOID allies and diminish our war efforts completely and we could not do anything about it.
If Itan does not make a full turn and actually declare war against TGFT & VOID and commit to it - I don't see that as a valid option.
@HepFree
I adressed that sentence in the first paragraph of my answer to Arf. Looks like you missed it.
As most of others posting in this thread - you know nothing about SKV history so making you understand would probably require a 3 pages long backstory. I don't have the will or time to go into that now.
@XeraX
No you did not - your statement was extremely ignorant of the circumstances and everything that has been said before you posted it.
I am the SKV spokesperson, nobody else from my guild speaks for us.
Nah I was joking, you don't win. You played your last card with false argumentation. You don't even know how the war started.
@Harpo
Can you make one coherent post instead of 6-7, it's a bit hard to address all of your thoughts like this and not miss something.
1. In the year & half I mentioned I went on a business trip once that lasted 4 months. Before I left ONE was almost completely inactive and TGFT stopped even trying to take stations. VOID was still helping us keep the peace. That happened 6 months ago so lets say a year after we successfully kept RED, ONE & TGFT at bay constantly.
2. When I returned around 1-2 months ago I found out that VOID became a TGFT puppet guild and TGFT was again controlling everything. VOID declared war on us.
3. We organized the best we could to fend off TGFT, VOID & ONE in greyspace and put stations under our control again. As we now had an additional enemy in VOID, after a month, or lets say 2 weeks ago we decided to make a loose truce for station access with weakened ONE in order to not disperse our forces too much and concentrate on destroying VOID & TGFT alliance as the biggest threat of all we were fighting at the moment.
4. As most of SKV are european and we actually sleep during your nights, we were unable to stop tsrektum auto-bombing bots from taking stations at nights/early mornings.Thanks to allowing access to ONE who still have some presence at that time of the night/day we managed to reduce our combat workload and concentrate on exiling VOID and TGFT out of grey.
5, Could we have turned to Itan for that instead of trusting ONE? No. In the last year and half Itan has ignored our alliance and actively sided with our TGFT enemy so that was really not an option. We accepted your decision to continue colluding with our enemies and were still giving you unlimited access to all conq stations.
6. We actually don't need stations and the only reason we put them under our control is to deny access to our TGFT & VOID enemies.
So, let's say ONE & SKV share the common goal in that regard at this time.
7. Itan, on the other hand, has been actively working with TGFT & VOID against us and now you expect us to accept you back as an ally with a vague notion that you might turn your back on TGFT? Sorry that would be a suicide since you would just continue to give access to all your TGFT & VOID allies and diminish our war efforts completely and we could not do anything about it.
If Itan does not make a full turn and actually declare war against TGFT & VOID and commit to it - I don't see that as a valid option.
@HepFree
I adressed that sentence in the first paragraph of my answer to Arf. Looks like you missed it.
As most of others posting in this thread - you know nothing about SKV history so making you understand would probably require a 3 pages long backstory. I don't have the will or time to go into that now.
@XeraX
No you did not - your statement was extremely ignorant of the circumstances and everything that has been said before you posted it.
I am the SKV spokesperson, nobody else from my guild speaks for us.
No Harpo I was not implying that you know anything about FAMY policy.
Since the key mentioned was a YT key and not a Nith key, I can't really give you any details in that regard; I can however give an example from my own experience that may gift you with some clarity:
A couple months back TGFT mistakenly keyed me, I recorded the names of the keys as well as the players names on the key. I then told TGFT about their mistake, and proceeded to spend the day sitting in i8 blowing up TGFT moths who looked like deer in my headlights as they jumped into their own station under fire. This went on for 8 hours until blaqk got on and removed me from the key. About a week later TGFT starts bragging on 100 about downing 3 Levi's in one day....
So I wake up early the next day and take Brac, name the Key identical to the one I had been given, "PAM something..", and start adding all the players names from the list I made. And then I waited. And waited. At one point SKV showed up and started bombing turrets, I keyed them, and told them I was Levi Hunting and that SKV were not my targets on that day. I was met with a "?" But other than that was left alone.
After much more waiting the TGFT I had been expecting to show up, did, in an XC with and Agg. So I now have an Agg. We key people for a variety of reasons, don't assume that you know why.
Yarr!
Since the key mentioned was a YT key and not a Nith key, I can't really give you any details in that regard; I can however give an example from my own experience that may gift you with some clarity:
A couple months back TGFT mistakenly keyed me, I recorded the names of the keys as well as the players names on the key. I then told TGFT about their mistake, and proceeded to spend the day sitting in i8 blowing up TGFT moths who looked like deer in my headlights as they jumped into their own station under fire. This went on for 8 hours until blaqk got on and removed me from the key. About a week later TGFT starts bragging on 100 about downing 3 Levi's in one day....
So I wake up early the next day and take Brac, name the Key identical to the one I had been given, "PAM something..", and start adding all the players names from the list I made. And then I waited. And waited. At one point SKV showed up and started bombing turrets, I keyed them, and told them I was Levi Hunting and that SKV were not my targets on that day. I was met with a "?" But other than that was left alone.
After much more waiting the TGFT I had been expecting to show up, did, in an XC with and Agg. So I now have an Agg. We key people for a variety of reasons, don't assume that you know why.
Yarr!
That's fornicating brilliant. Well played.
Yall are a bunch of nerds
Like H.G. Wells wasn't a nerd...pft
Axiom, you are playing a Sci-Fi inspired game. Are you calling the devgods nerds?
You are a nerd for playing this game, I suggest you keep out of this thread if you have no idea what is going down. Afterall, you are a nerd too.
As for the ITAN-SKV-TGFT stuff, keep rolling guys. Without you lot we would all be mining roids right now :D
You are a nerd for playing this game, I suggest you keep out of this thread if you have no idea what is going down. Afterall, you are a nerd too.
As for the ITAN-SKV-TGFT stuff, keep rolling guys. Without you lot we would all be mining roids right now :D
Wow Bojan, i truly don't understand how you can invest so much time in typing/making up the false history of your own guild. Especially when the people you are arguing with here are perhaps some of the most keenly aware of what has transpired; as if your silly propaganda delusions are going to change well documented history and sharp memories?
You are on a path somewhere -- stop taking the long way and save yourself the burden, bro.
You are on a path somewhere -- stop taking the long way and save yourself the burden, bro.
@greenwall
You understand nothing greenwall. Your hopeless teen ass was still learning how to fire swarms in your pathetic swarmrag in Deneb when SKV ruled Deneb and grey.
Yes greenwall - for most of us you are just a nobody who knows nothing about SKV, still, the same moronic and ignorant swarmer noob whose ass we saved numerous times from those nasty Serco.
Among all Itani players that are still playing VO perhaps only Harpo can tell a small part of the story since he was in IDF when I was a Lt. there and was playing at the time IDF, IA & AKAN disbanded and SKV was formed.
If he has time or will to do it, I might let yoda chip in with a story on this since he was in VO from the beginning of time and can talk about VO history none of you ever heard about.
I'll just add this so you can troll with your nonsense some more:
Becoming a member of SKV is the highest honor any Itani player can achieve in his VO lifetime.
You understand nothing greenwall. Your hopeless teen ass was still learning how to fire swarms in your pathetic swarmrag in Deneb when SKV ruled Deneb and grey.
Yes greenwall - for most of us you are just a nobody who knows nothing about SKV, still, the same moronic and ignorant swarmer noob whose ass we saved numerous times from those nasty Serco.
Among all Itani players that are still playing VO perhaps only Harpo can tell a small part of the story since he was in IDF when I was a Lt. there and was playing at the time IDF, IA & AKAN disbanded and SKV was formed.
If he has time or will to do it, I might let yoda chip in with a story on this since he was in VO from the beginning of time and can talk about VO history none of you ever heard about.
I'll just add this so you can troll with your nonsense some more:
Becoming a member of SKV is the highest honor any Itani player can achieve in his VO lifetime.
Bojan all I saw was you trying to justify the fact that you are collaborating with Serco nationalists. I know I don't know the history, etc.... but I still do not see how a nationalist guild can work with the serco side. The only way it makes sense is if SKV had moved on from being a nationalist guild.
Lol as if what happened in VO 18 years ago is relevant? I'm sure your trophy cabinet is well dusted, Bojan, but nobody gives a fuck.
"Becoming a member of VOID is the highest honor any Itani player can achieve in his VO lifetime."
ftfy
YARR.
"Becoming a member of VOID is the highest honor any Itani player can achieve in his VO lifetime."
ftfy
YARR.
BTW Bojan, before all these other nerds started to play, SAF kicked all your asses, so did SoR. :P the fact that a Serco guild would ally with you just shows how weak the Serco have become.
Yes Hep I know you don't know the history so I am not taking your comments too seriously.
Let's just say this... Serco guilds dominated VO for a long time, they ruled deneb, they won ctc every damn week, they ruled greyspace until... SKV appeared.
After SKV was formed and sprung into action - the Serco domination ended.
The Itani nation would now be a bunch of scared miners and traders hiding in nation space and Itan guild would be no more if it wasn't for SKV and what we did to make Itani nation prosper.
@yoda
these noobs don't know anything about SAF or SoR. Yeah they kicked IDF and IA into oblivion and only a few persistent idiots kept fighting them :P
Let's just say this... Serco guilds dominated VO for a long time, they ruled deneb, they won ctc every damn week, they ruled greyspace until... SKV appeared.
After SKV was formed and sprung into action - the Serco domination ended.
The Itani nation would now be a bunch of scared miners and traders hiding in nation space and Itan guild would be no more if it wasn't for SKV and what we did to make Itani nation prosper.
@yoda
these noobs don't know anything about SAF or SoR. Yeah they kicked IDF and IA into oblivion and only a few persistent idiots kept fighting them :P
As if mining was boring!
Not when you do it all at once without the use of mining beams or roids it ain't.
Wouldn't it nice if one could attach a poll to threads? Sort of public opinion meter? One that couldn't be abused by ghost log ins? I mean since this is a thread that posits ITAN is aligning with VOID and that that alignment is a bad thing. And a counter suggestion that SKV is aligning with Serco elements and that that alignment is a bad thing. Just some way neutrals and not so neutrals could chime in anonymously so as to avoid in game blowback. A final judgement of sorts indicating the more compelling argument.
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stop glorifying irrelevant efforts of your guild in the past, Bojansplash. in Vendetta Online, there is barely a chance to effect the game in a meaningful way through gameplay. What has helped this game is player contribution however: people have written guides, made plugins, mentored newbs, hosted events (TGFT hosted NW for years...) etc. those are the things that stay in ones mind, not which guild had the most active players in year X or which guild thought they dominated Deneb etc.
you can say things like "for most of us you are just a nobody who knows nothing about SKV" but it won't make you look any less alone than you are in this thread. covering that your guildmates are too ashamed to stand up for you by claiming you are the ONLY spokesman of SKV who gets to say anything is laughable to say the least.
what matters is today. And today you are a pathetic old chap trying to defend his already broken sandcastle from multiple people at once. I measure players by their overall competence and since it was greenwall you were talking down... i have to tell you that he is a better pilot than you are overall. while you spend most your time with talking, he has achieved numerous insane achievments over the years he played (soloing a Leviathan for example. have you done that?)
nobody cares what your clan of self proclaimed "veterans" thinks.
it takes more than just being in this game for years to be a veteran bojansplash. You have to dig deep into the game, score insane achievments, be a good in both PvE and PvP combat and master most of the aspects to call yourself a "veteran". i have many players in my mind - you are not one of them.
greenwall is more of a veteran of Vendetta Online than you are, Bojansplash.
you are not a veteran. - you are a little clown.
you can say things like "for most of us you are just a nobody who knows nothing about SKV" but it won't make you look any less alone than you are in this thread. covering that your guildmates are too ashamed to stand up for you by claiming you are the ONLY spokesman of SKV who gets to say anything is laughable to say the least.
what matters is today. And today you are a pathetic old chap trying to defend his already broken sandcastle from multiple people at once. I measure players by their overall competence and since it was greenwall you were talking down... i have to tell you that he is a better pilot than you are overall. while you spend most your time with talking, he has achieved numerous insane achievments over the years he played (soloing a Leviathan for example. have you done that?)
nobody cares what your clan of self proclaimed "veterans" thinks.
it takes more than just being in this game for years to be a veteran bojansplash. You have to dig deep into the game, score insane achievments, be a good in both PvE and PvP combat and master most of the aspects to call yourself a "veteran". i have many players in my mind - you are not one of them.
greenwall is more of a veteran of Vendetta Online than you are, Bojansplash.
you are not a veteran. - you are a little clown.
^^^^^ gee I wonder who that could be
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion TA or whoever you are in game,
I am not a bragging chest-thumping idiot like greenwall or Sieger and neither are the rest of SKV.
It seems you measure anyones 'insane' achievements and 'veterancy' in VO by how much they actually brag on ch 100 or on forums, or maybe how much they exploited or cheated to get to those achievements.
Also it seems very unusual for you that a guild has a spokesperson.
How about you look in the dictionary and check what that means before revealing your incompetence and idiocy to the public?
If you want to talk about "today", lets do it.
Today TGFT is a bunch of scared cowards cowering in nation space and relying on tsrektums bots to take stations for them so they can rush there in panic to build something and maybe live to get back to Dau alive.
Today VOID is a dead guild with just 3 bragging idiots spewing nonsense on 100 and running as soon as SKV jumps in sector, they just have to decide who is better at running, greenwall or Sieger.
Today SKV is active and wins every battle if it happens.
You lot cannot even fart freely because you are so scared of SKV to show your heads out of your asses.
Now get real and stop spewing your smelly shit over forums.
Also, please stop hijacking this thread for your personal propaganda, this thread is about Itan & VOID and everything related to it.
I am not a bragging chest-thumping idiot like greenwall or Sieger and neither are the rest of SKV.
It seems you measure anyones 'insane' achievements and 'veterancy' in VO by how much they actually brag on ch 100 or on forums, or maybe how much they exploited or cheated to get to those achievements.
Also it seems very unusual for you that a guild has a spokesperson.
How about you look in the dictionary and check what that means before revealing your incompetence and idiocy to the public?
If you want to talk about "today", lets do it.
Today TGFT is a bunch of scared cowards cowering in nation space and relying on tsrektums bots to take stations for them so they can rush there in panic to build something and maybe live to get back to Dau alive.
Today VOID is a dead guild with just 3 bragging idiots spewing nonsense on 100 and running as soon as SKV jumps in sector, they just have to decide who is better at running, greenwall or Sieger.
Today SKV is active and wins every battle if it happens.
You lot cannot even fart freely because you are so scared of SKV to show your heads out of your asses.
Now get real and stop spewing your smelly shit over forums.
Also, please stop hijacking this thread for your personal propaganda, this thread is about Itan & VOID and everything related to it.