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ITAN & VOID working together, so sad

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Aug 13, 2016 greenwall link
You wish I was trolling. This is what happens when you insulate your reasoning from reality.

"This can't be true because it doesn't align with what I want!"

I think all those ethics have clouded what's left of your itani brain, if indeed there is anything left.
Aug 13, 2016 bojansplash link
Sorry man, you lost, game over.
Aug 13, 2016 greenwall link
Nope, I won long ago. GG
Aug 13, 2016 Inevitable link
The fact of the matter is that the tampon you left in your bedside table will be the same shape as when you put it in tomorrow.
Aug 13, 2016 morgan link
ITAN is going to end up actually allied with TGFT if bojan keeps failing so hard at political discussion, which would most likely spell the end of FAMY/ONE/SKV as the alts(EDIT) go inactive and back to their main accounts. A ITAN/VOID military force would end this war supplemented by the total market dominance by TGFT.
Aug 13, 2016 Trader Establishment link
saying "you lost" doesn't make you win bojansplash!

change these sheets!
Aug 13, 2016 bojansplash link
@morgan

Thats an interesting thought morgan, however, Itan is already allied with TGFT & VOID and has been actively supporting TGFT for the last 18 months throughout the course of this war.
Also true, SKV is not too much into machiavellian politics like TGFT, we mostly let our guns do the talking.

Your outlook on the overall balance of power is also very cute. :)
Aug 13, 2016 morgan link
Who other then Niki and Misty are really a threat in group combat inside your guild? FAMY has Nith and that's it. ONE outside of the alts they are playing on are reserved to the role of late night trading and manufacturing with FAMY/EDIT. Tridents only help when the enemy doesn't own some as well.

Clearly if the pilots capable of combat within these groups were to organize and act in the ways you advocate so strongly your guild would once again go inactive and those who support you would either A. Be able to play as nationalists B. Benifit from greyspace unity

Fraudulent promises and empty word will be your personal and professional undoing.

Say anything do nothing policy and shifting blame to your so called allies was the worst move you could have made. You have created a vacuum of power by ignoring actual nationalism for personal gain as has YT-1300 by selling out his guild for a trident built by ONE.

The last thing SKV and those duped by its "leadership" needs is to piss off ITAN and VOID with these childs games. Both of these guilds have to many ties to pilots with recent combat experience in the several wars they have been apart of.
Aug 13, 2016 Hoban-Wash-Washburne link
^^^^ sounds like a TGFT lacky
Aug 13, 2016 morgan link
Wash is just mad he's not Niki or Misty and a weekend Serco Nationalist in a fake Itani nationalism guild because his bros are to busy playing mud hut and other vidya.

He's exactly the kind of pilot that post was addressing, people bad at RP & PVP
Aug 13, 2016 bojansplash link
@morgan

Finally someone who tries to see the big picture in an interesting way. If you only managed to leave out your bias out of it, it could have worked as a serious analysis. Like this... no cigar for you.

Your analysis is full of under and over estimation of combat capable pilots of all parties involved in this conflict so, sorry I have to say this, it's based on the highly speculative premises and hence flawed.

However, it provides an interesting prediction of a one possible outcome of 'what if' situation happens.

Now, I know TGFT is all about machiavellian politics, they have a history of immoral and unethical behavior so, rest assured - we have analyzed several possible outcomes with various variables included and we are prepared for the worst or the best scenarios of this game - whichever one happens.

Let's say, if TGFT manages to get ITAN (who has been actively supporting TGFT during the whole course of this war anyway) to officially declare war on SKV , it will certainly create a very interesting scenario and... also one we are fully prepared for.

Whatever happens, there are huge risks involved that can result in a catastrophic outcomes if someone plays the wrong card.

But, at the end, this is Vendetta Online not a Hello Kitty Online so let's play. :)
Aug 13, 2016 morgan link
I'm glad we could come to agreement on my analysis, but I can make a claim that is nowhere near speculative.

These are the results of searching for a guild after being inactive for over a decade.

Aug 13, 2016 Hoban-Wash-Washburne link
@morgan

my RP is kill everything I can. My PvP is sometimes good, sometimes bad but I will happily accept a challenge from you in game if you would like to find out what kind of day I'm having.
Aug 13, 2016 Trader Establishment link
bojans talk is all hot air. i could trade safely throughout the whole verse and had just enough station access. SKV only ever appears when they have numbers logged in. for some days of the week they're fully gone cause none of them dare going out alone

mistena is the only exception and listening in to 100 shows she often gets ganked or loses to better pilots.

that's all that can be said for SKV. SKV is not "prepared" for a war. they lose once they are outnumbered like any other guild in VO. if ITAN finally had active pilots again and TGFT sent some of their thousand Tridents into the battle SKV would already be wiped out of whatever sector was being fought in in seconds. and if VOID which has a fair number of good pilots enters in and sides with those 2 guilds? Easy: SKV would be smashed into pieces and burned to ashes.

you ain't any more special than other guilds. you profit from the summer inactivity of some players and their being busy with other things. no one in their right mind takes you seriously anymore bojansplash. you should shut up.
Aug 13, 2016 bojansplash link
@morgan

yeah, laboon... I must admit I did not take you too seriously when we first met and was surprised at how well you aimed your gat.
My surprise lasted for a day however and I have some screens too.





Aug 13, 2016 morgan link
I want to add some context to my image by reminding you it was done in 1v1 while I was not apart of a guild, while your kills were in a 3v1 then a 4v1 once I had joined VOID.
Aug 13, 2016 bojansplash link
Indeed, only our Latos H-2 encounter was a 1v1.

However, keep in mind that SKV is very proficient at group combat.
Aug 13, 2016 Trader Establishment link
memes won't make you less a little clown bojansplash.

SKV is not more proficient at group combat than anybody else. they don't show up at all with low numbers and the weaker pvpers (like you) rely on one or two good pilots in your guild. everyone in VO knows this. nothing special. any other guild fights with that tactic. some have more fun and appear with low numbers but will quickly stop that against you cause you spend all day photographing your kills, probably logging on and off before to clean the list.

you are the guy with the big ego who keeps coming back to get trolled more in this thread. go on little man.
Aug 13, 2016 csgno1 link
@Bojan

Nothing would have actually changed in that respect if Itan did not openly attack SKV held station for which they had our key.

It was not your key, it was 'FAMY & Friends'. I was the only Itan member there with a key when you showed up and I was not attacking, I told you that at the time. Your attempts to create your own versions of this event don't work well because there were other people there. And you forget that an SKV pilot did attack an ITAN pilot, but we did not retaliate.

You also keep claiming that Itan supports TGFT against SKV's war effort. The highlight of my coordination with TGFT was to enlist their help against Serco nationalists and pirates, basically they were doing your job. But that was months ago. In contrast, you have made deals with the Serco nationalists and pirates, securing their access to stations, which is working against Itani interests. You're doing the Serco's job. I bet they are having a good laugh.

Lately Itan has been defending the Itani border, fighting your new allies (ONE, EDIT, FAMY, #die) in Edras and Pel. Their support from SKV seems to be helping to improve their position, even EDIT now has a trident.
Aug 13, 2016 bojansplash link
@Harpo

Correct, it was the key we used to take station, we had no new SKV key (they were compromised by VOID some time ago) so we used that one. I really can't know if you personally started attacking or not, I arrived at the scene later and you were there among the others.
SKV pilot at the station warned you to not attack and said that you will all get keyed. After you continued attacking he opened fire. I arrived shortly after that and ordered a cease fire.
You refused to use our key and wanted to put the station under your own key. To stop this from escalating we moved out of station sector and let you have the station.

Also true, I do claim that Itan supports TGFT against SKV war efforts. Let's be realistic you are just one of many who have very close and personal ties with TGFT council, rest of them are TGFT alts playing as Itan and, of course, they work for their main boss majority of the time. The various ways of how you supported TGFT when they did not have stations access are pretty obvious so let's not waste time on that.

If you think our job is to deal with pirates, you are wrong.
SKV has never meddled in pirate affairs in greyspace unless they interfered with our operations. It has been like that since the dawn of time. Almost a decade ago BLAK & CLM helped us drive Serco out of grey completely and since then we sticked to our 'non interference' policy regarding greyspace pirates.

In regard to accepting an understanding around conquerable stations access with Serco I can only say that at this moment we share a common enemy - TGFT, by far the biggest and ugliest evil that has ever appeared in this universe.
And yes, we have been able to put aside our millennia old feud with the Serco for a brief moment so we can get rid of this ugly evil that is plaguing our galaxy.
Once the evil is destroyed or exiled I am sure both parties will gladly continue where we stopped 2 weeks ago.

About defending Itani border... yeah, we have defense turrets and SF for that in Jallik and military fleet in Deneb. I think SKV not being present there at the moment won't make much of a difference.

As I said above, SKV has a 'non interference' policy regarding pirate guilds operating in greyspace for almost a decade.
During the time we were real allies you could have called on us to declare war on them if necessary and we would have jumped in a war without second thought but.... since you broke our alliance 18 months ago I don't think we are willing to do that now.

And a trident, who doesn't have one? TGFT are building them for everyone who is willing to pay or make some shady deal with them.
Heck, I bet they would build one for anyone who agrees to start using TGFT_utils plug-in so they can use him as a free spy on all his chars.